Abused for defending choice
A BARRAGE of reaction heaped upon a Gisborne couple after they spoke out against their two-year-old being taught Maori language at childcare has left them feeling like they were “hung out to dry” by a national television show.

Phill and Haylee Foster appeared on Campbell Live on Monday night with their daughter Latika. Mr Foster had approached the current affairs show last week to protest about his daughter being spoken to in Maori and being taught Maori words at her childcare centre.

He was encouraged to go ahead with the story by a Campbell Live staff member, who said she was having the same problem with her 18-month-old in an Auckland childcare centre, he said.

The Fosters were told the segment would air last week but it was delayed.

They feel this was so their story could coincide with the start of Maori Language Week on Monday to make it more inflammatory — the theme of this year’s week is Arohatia te reo Maori – cherish the Maori language.

The Fosters had no idea it was Maori Language Week until they watched TV that night and said their story was made to look “one-sided”.

Appearing on national television about such a controversial issue has had its drawbacks — there has been abuse over the phone and hundreds of critical comments left over social networking sites and TV3’s website.

Mr Foster has been called “Hitler” and Mrs Foster, pregnant with baby No.2, says she is too apprehensive to go out because of the reaction she might get.

Two family members have even stopped “talking to them since the show aired.

“On Facebook they have even said we’re irresponsible parents for giving our child a ghetto name. Latika means lovely little one in Indian. We should have the choice about when our daughter learns another language.”

But there has been support from surprising corners too.

“Some Maori people have told us they are 100 percent behind us and it should be the parents’ choice.”

At two, their daughter Latika can say cat and count to five.

Her parents say that they want her to grasp English before she is introduced to another language — irrespective of what the other language is.

They refute claims they are racist and say they simply want as parents to have the choice to decide when their toddler should learn another language.

“We’re not saying we don’t like Maoris and we don’t like their language . . . what we’re saying is that at the age of two our daughter needs to learn English first. Once we’ve taught her English and got no slang in there, then at five when she sits down at school they can teach her Maori then,” said Mr Foster.

“Everyone else is too gutless to stand up for it. I admire that politician up north, Hone Harawira, because he stands up for things. One of the ladies at the kindy told us that they also teach Tongan there.

“I said, ‘We don’t want her to learn that either’. Tongans are the nicest people in the world but I still don’t want her to learn that language either at this stage of her life.”

Mr Foster feels like the point they were trying to get across was twisted out of proportion and turned into a race issue.

Their daughter has been pulled from the childcare centre and they are unsure whether they will enrol her at another one.

The Fosters say they have heard the information about introducing children at an early age to other languages but are adamant it is still their choice as parents to say whether they want her to be bi-lingual before she turns five.

Broadcasters say timing was coincidental

MEDIAWORKS spokeswoman Rachel Lorimer said that in no way was there any attempt to ‘‘hang the Fosters out to dry’’ by Campbell Live.

“That is simply not how our journalists operate. Yes, the comments made by the Fosters are controversial, but they approached Campbell Live last Friday afternoon with a desire to express strongly- held views, and were treated with fairness and balance by all involved.

“The feedback we received after the programme aired was split between people supportive of the Fosters’ point of view and those who were not.

“It is also important to note that the timing of the story going to air was coincidental.”

As it was too late to reach the childcare centre on Friday afternoon, the Fosters were told the story would run on Monday. They were also told by a Campbell Live producer that this was Maori Language Week, she said.

WORDS FAIL THEM: Haylee and Phill Foster say their two-year-old daughter can’t even speak English yet and teaching her Maori words at pre-school is just confusing her. They feel they were misrepresented on Campbell Live on Monday night and want people to know they are not racist — they just want to have a choice as parents to say when their daughter is introduced to another language. Picture by Dave Thomas
Comments
Expat kiwi
12:34 a.m. Friday, Jul 27, 2012
I am a Kiwi living overseas, I read the story on line, I'm totally disgusted with the reaction of this story, why should anybody be forced to speak and learn Maori, good on you both for speaking out a lot more people want to but they have not got the guts to speak out. I was forced to learn Maori in Form one and my teacher embarrassed me in front of my class because I couldn't speak it but if I struggled in English or Maths she never worried. The the NZ Herald isn't allowing comments, good on this paper for doing so
Don Miller
06:19 p.m. Thursday, Jul 26, 2012
I wish I had been exposed to another language at that age. I struggled to learn the Thai language in my twenties and now understand how much easier that would have been if I had learned ANY other language as a child. Thankfully I now have a grandson who can speak English and Cantonese .
Jo Stafford
06:05 p.m. Thursday, Jul 26, 2012
What I cant make out though is why they didn't complain to the day-care themselves OR just remove their kid? I would like to have some sympathy with this couple but they initiated contact with Campbell Live which given that it is a Live prime-time TV expose' one can only summise it was to make a "big deal of their situation" PLUS those were their own "sound-bites" in the clip not doctored so they got what they set out for, but didn't expect the backlash. Naive? Possibly but what I am struggling to come to terms with is considering by the time that little girl will be 25 the Maori population in Gissy will exceed 50% and with a good chunk of the non-Maori population then married too or related to Maori do they want their little girl to be the odd one out not socialising well with anyone because of her learnt behaviours?
Jim Wright
05:48 p.m. Thursday, Jul 26, 2012
That is a great story, thank you for sharing it with everyone and well done for speaking up for what you believe.
Jim
Renee
10:26 a.m. Friday, Jul 27, 2012
While I support the idea of kids learning te reo in school, I agree that 2 years old may be a bit young to start.
DC
03:21 p.m. Friday, Jul 27, 2012
Re: "Expat" comment above. No one is being forced to learn or speak Maori, I think you should read the article again. The childcare facility is just simply giving the kiddies lots of language choices but is in no way forcing them to learn or speak it.
Why can't we have one week out of 52 to enjoy the original language of Aotearoa without some people freaking out?
The two-year-old isn't even going to remember Maori language week next week. Sad that she has been pulled from childcare!
Lillian Bauckham
05:13 p.m. Friday, Jul 27, 2012
I wish I had the opportunity to learn te reo when I was a child growing up, but I came from a generation when we were told Maori language would get us nowhere. I agree with Jo Stafford; why didn't they complain to the childcare facility ?
Good on them for speaking up but look where it got them. They went to the media and now they have to deal with the backlash.
I have no sympathy whatsoever for the parents but I do for their child. As for racism - face reality, New Zealand is full of it.
Mr and Mrs Tamatea
08:49 p.m. Friday, Jul 27, 2012
You are never to young or old to learn the language of our country!
We think it's great schools and preschools are making the effort to keep te reo Maori alive within Aotearoa. We think it's a shame the parents are taking that right away from their child; we believe te reo Maori is a very spiritual and sacred language and is what keeps Aotearoa alive today. This language should be compulsory throughout all NewZealand schools; it should never have been taken away in the first place.
Mrs Jackson
02:40 p.m. Saturday, Jul 28, 2012
Wow! Another example of freedom of speech. I am a kiwi living in australia, growing up I enjoyed learning maori in school. I understood and respected the concept of keeping the language alive, the passion of spirituality and history of our culture. I think people forget how lucky we are in NZ. Having all these systems in place to be able to learn about our beautiful aotearoa. I have 3 children in school and can understand the parents decision. It is there right, however why not ask the childcare centre to omit teaching maori to their daughter. Simple! The fact that they wanted to put their story forward suggest that they craved the media attention! I too have no sympathy for the backlash that they have created! My kids are in an australian
School where they are taught Indonesian and italian, exactly the same as maori being taught in NZ. I as a parent let them embrace it, the results are far more rewarding!
Kath
08:49 p.m. Sunday, Jul 29, 2012
I think te reo Maori should be compulsory in all schools, starting with pre-school through to secondary. Why? To enable correct pronunciation of the language for a start.

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm sick and tired of being called a 'mowree' or 'mahree'. It's not hard to say Maori! I heard on 3 news tonight where Kaukapakapa was referred to as 'Cow-copper-copper'.

It's funny how Pakeha are quick to jump up and say the Maori language is being forced on them. Well hello, have you forgotten what your ancestors did to mine when they were at school? And, it never stopped there either. I've had a lifetime of 'tikanga Pakeha' being shoved down my throat!
Georgina Campbell
10:59 a.m. Monday, Jul 30, 2012
I totally agree with you Kath...funny how they don't like it now the boots are on the other feet...& just to so they all know...tikanga pakeha is still being forced down our throats...AND NOT JUST HERE IN AOTEAROA EITHER!
I would also like to mention that there are alot of Pakeha out there that do tautoko Maori so we must not tar them all with the same brush...
Half Cast Parent
09:29 p.m. Sunday, Jul 29, 2012
Yes, New Zealand is full of racism . . . the reason is our generation is paying for things done by a generation 200 odd years ago.
Why should my taxes be used by the Waitangi Tribunal to pay my neighbour who's great-great-great-grandad apparently had land stolen from him! It's wrong. Everybody needs to earn their own income and work for their house or land etc. My grandfather was a Maori and no I don't want my kids to learn te reo at school. Is it going to help them get ahead in life? No, it's not.
Teach them Japanese or Chinese, that will help them. Let them learn te reo if they want to, don't force it.
My kids can count to 10 in Maori and know some colours and other common words, and they learned them by choice.
Do you think Germans should be forced to learn French? I don't think so, yet there are millions of Germans living in France.
Be realistic, let parents and children make their own choices.
New Zealand was one of the last countries in the world where we had a choice, please don't take it away from us.
Expat Kiwi
12:35 a.m. Tuesday, Jul 31, 2012
@DC if people can't choose not to have a child learn Maori without being labeled and a fuss being made, then in my book it is being forced upon them. If the truth be known lots of other people think the same and want to speak out but fear getting labeled as these people have been. I've been in that situation and would have loved to have spoken out but couldn't due to the fear of being ostracised by others, I've witnessed others who spoke out. Remember NZ has the history of the Moriori before the Maori but we never hear about that side. Its about time people in NZ live as one allow people to be who they are and choose what they want. Respect each others wishes without fear of being ostracised.
@ Half Cast Parent agree 100%
rangi rangiuaia
12:43 p.m. Thursday, Aug 02, 2012
Kia ora, could someone please tell me what a half caste is? And does this imply that when i die, half of me will go to Heaven and the other half to Hawaiiki? Or perhaps this is in reference to my father being half-urban on his mother's side, and half-rural on his fathers?
Mama Bear
08:58 p.m. Thursday, Aug 02, 2012
Half caste...half of each, so as I have a german grandmother and Ngapuhi grandfather paternally, and Ngatiporou nan and Scottish Grand dad maternilly...I am pure mongrel and very proud...my 7 children have Ngati Toa and Ngati Porou via dad...the point being all of me will go in the ground engari what I choose to leave my children other than my Insurance policy is a rich tapestry of culture from every where...but as we live in NZ I tautoko [support] them learning Te Reo as this language and culture has a higher priority in NZ than their entitlement to German and Scottish culture. I would prefer to see my tax payers dollars go to education as opposed to the supporting of MOJ for prisons and court cases however like a true kiwi I trust the government to do whats best...and as kiwi I wont like eveything...that dosnt mean Il take it to John Campbell
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